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Last Post: May 04 2013 05:14 PMby: Looking to Help

Jennifer_Canada
Jennifer_Canada
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2/21/12

A My Two Cents Post

Oct 04 2012 08:29 AM

I just wanted to do a little comment/mild rant post.
I would really like in incontinence product companies would stop using names for products like "extra", "extra plus", "super", "super plus", "ultra". I mean what do those words even mean relative to each other. I remember when I had to start wearing incontinence products and getting confused on what those words meant in terms of absorbancy and size of padding. I know a lot of packaging has things like a certain number of colored in dots, or a product scale, but those can be hard to find on a package. I remember those first few times buying products, standing in the incontinence aisle searching for information on various packages trying to compare the products.
I think a simple number scale or something like "low", "medium", and "high" would be best.
Anyways, just my opinion.
oab2011
oab2011
Member since:
8/4/11

RE: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 04 2012 09:16 AM

Yeah, Jennifer, they are confusing, aren't they. What's "super" for one product may be "ultra" for another or even a "don't waste your time with this" for still another brand! If you get one brand that's "super" it doesn't even come close to another brand's "extra-absorbent." And there are times when the manufacturer decides to do away with its old adjectives and puts in some new words and you have no idea if you're buying the same thing, or something that's not nearly as good. The dots you mention are a good idea and it would be nice if all companies can get together and be consistent on those. But figure the chances on competitors getting together on something like that! And I, too, think "low," "medium" "high" would probably lead to less confusion.
Guest
Guest
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3/31/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 04 2012 01:26 PM

Jennifer, you are absolutely right. There are no standards, no definitions, and lots of confusion. Tena makes an Ultra and a Super. Wouldn't you think the Ultra would be the top absorbency? Nope.

The water droplet iconography found on so many incontinence products is no use either, since it will vary widely from brand to brand. A Maximum absorbency diaper from one brand, with 5/5 water drops, may be terrible for people will full incontinence, and equivalent to the bottom-of-the-line diaper from another.

I say we start a movement to clearly define the following terms:

- Light
- Medium
- Heavy
- Maximum

And assign absorbency ratings based on ounces of absorbency, as rated by a third-party organization.

- Light (8-10 oz)
- Medium (11-20 oz)
- Heavy (21-30 oz)
- Maximum (31+ oz)

The numbers are completely negotiable, of course, but this would be the only way to get everyone on the same page whether they're buying Depend, Tena, or Abena.

Now, what do we call this movement? Sorb Standards? Capacity Certification? Leaky Laws?

-RMS
smoore8186
smoore8186
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3/31/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 08 2012 03:15 AM

They need to put the absorbency amounts in ounces for sure and stop the name games. I use a product that holds 96 ozs. and it is the best on the market. It allows me to go to work and not have to worry about changing until I get home. Our office restroom is not setup for changing. That being said, I went out online and had to research to find the absorbency ratings for most brands to try and save money in buying sub par products. There is a site that does test reviews and I would urge everyone to check it out before buying different products.

Have a nice day!
Jennifer_Canada
Jennifer_Canada
Member since:
2/21/12

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 08 2012 08:45 AM

When it comes to absorbancy in terms of oz, do they spread that over the entire pad, brief, etc? Because when a person is wearing a product obviously the urine is concentrated in one area and wicked away. Wicking ability is very important for products, if the urine can spread to the rear and front of the product the chances of a leak from a second wetting is so much less.
Sunset
Sunset
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3/31/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 08 2012 10:38 AM

From what I have found is, yes some products wick better than others. Tests that I have seen on various sites and even one on u-tube show the amount (ounces) spread over the entire garment. It would be very hard to specify exactly where this amount is defined or not. The ounce rating is a good reference for rating, but not fact in reality. Again each of us out here go through trials and error to find the best product for our individual needs, either man or woman. I will say and most here will agree to do the T&E tests at home if all possible. Error(s) in public is what we are trying to avoid.
oab2011
oab2011
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8/4/11

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 08 2012 12:21 PM

You've got it! Definitely trial and error testing should be done at home! Then once satisfied we can wear whatever is new out in public. But that is part of the game since every product is made differently and everyone has different needs. I think with incon products a "One size fits all" should be looked at with a doubting eye.
Patrick
Patrick
Member since:
8/26/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 14 2012 02:44 PM

An interesting twist to the T&E advice is that manufacturers continually change the products they market to us. Pad dimensions, polymer formulas, and waist and leg band designs are just some of the areas of change. We must continually test and evaluate, at home, preferably, before going out in public, just in order to keep up. All of which makes the lives of incontinents really interesting. If the non-handicapped world only knew.
dave82
dave82
Member since:
3/31/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 15 2012 06:38 AM

silent cost cutting in incontinence products is greatly unappreciated especially given the prices have been raising not dropping.
DavidChristopher
DavidChristopher
Member since:
10/29/11

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 16 2012 06:39 PM

The issue about capacity is interesting, but in Canada it should be measured in millilitres, not only ounces. I noticed the person who started this is a fellow Canadian, so I thought I'd mention that.
billieham
billieham
Member since:
10/26/12

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 25 2012 04:18 PM

One of my big complaints is: Why does the company have to make the wrap around the pad so hard to tear off? Talk about noisy...rrrriiiippp. Not so private when out at a public restroom. The pad will not escape if less glue were used.
billieham
billieham
Member since:
10/26/12

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Oct 25 2012 04:21 PM

I forgot to also comment about the Poise packaging. You really have to take time to read all that is written on the packages. Moderate, Regular, long, extra long. I have bought the wrong ones a couple times by misreading the small print.
caregivertweets
caregivertweets
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7/27/12

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Apr 28 2013 05:08 AM

At The CareGiver Partnership, we field calls everyday from people who are confused about which product to purchase due to all the reasons stated on this thread. That's why we offer over 500 styles, sizes, absorbencies and brands with over 100 samples to try before you buy including all the Depend and Poise products.
Guest
Guest
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3/31/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

Apr 28 2013 05:15 AM

Great commercial, Caregiver!

-RMS
Looking to Help
Looking to Help
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9/22/09

Re: A My Two Cents Post

May 04 2013 05:14 PM

Nothing like some free advertisement.

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